Job 4,8,11 ⭕When Job 's three friends Eliphaz, Bildad and Zophar heard of Job' s calamity they came to visit him.
⭕ Because they were overwhelmed with grief when they saw Job 's pathetic state they just sat without uttering a single word.
⭕Then they began to talk one after the other.
At first they were courteous but then they became judgmental. First, Eliphaz the Temanite started his speech with a great show of dignity. (Job 4)
⛺He argued from his experience. We see him using the words, " I have observed," "I have seen" (Job 4:9,5:3).
⛺His experience was based on a terrible dream(Job 4:12-16)
⛺ He ended his speech calling Job a hypocrite. (Job 15:34).
Next Bildad, the Shuhite's speech consisted of more of the past
⛺In Job 8:8-11 he said, "Ask the former generation to find out what their fathers learned.".
⛺He argued that suffering was always the result of hidden sin.
⛺ Bildad even went to the extent of telling that Job's children wee killed as punishment for their sins". (Job 8:4).
⛺He called Job, "wicked, (18:5,) (21). and sinner(25: 4)
Zophar, the Naamite was legalistic and merciless in his speech.
⛺ He called Job a liar, a godless man, and a sinner. (Job 11, 20)
⛺He falsely accused that Job oppressed the poor and left them destitute.
One common factor that underlie the conversation of Job's three friends is the principle of divine retribution
◼His friends emphasized Job that God punishes the wicked and rewards the righteous. Since the righteous are always blessed and the wicked always receive God's judgment they concluded that Job was a sinner.
Job, on his denied the accusations of his friends. He declared himself innocent of their charges.
Dear friends, apart from God given light we cannot properly understand the purpose of God in our own life and in the lives of others. So instead of passing judgment or preaching philosophical words to the troubled souls let us pray for them and with them so that they would find consolation and divine peace.
Manjula Premraj, Chennai
Is Questioning God wrong?
Job is asking / questioning God:
》 What is mankind that you make so much of them❓ ✒ 7:17
》 Why have you made me your target❓ ✒ 7:20
》 Why do you not pardon my offenses and forgive my sins❓ ✒ 7:21
Some of us may find it surprising that Job is allowed to ask God such questions.
✅ In Hinduism the answer to all the questions in the Vedas is ~ neti... neti which means Not this... not that.
✅ Islam does not allow any questioning; it demands only Obedience and Submission.
✅ But Biblical faith has always been open about and respectful of the questions of its followers:
~ Jacob dared to ask God's name and demanded blessings (Gen 32:22-32)
~ Moses asked 4 questions, including asking God for his name (Ex 3-6)
》 Jesus was time and again asked , "Are you the ONE who is to come or should we expect someone else " (Mat 11:3)
The God of the Bible is the One who answers ~His name is Yahweh (I AM WHO I AM)
~ "I have heard your prayer .. I will heal you... I will add 15 years to your life "
~ "I am willing, Be clean (@ from leprosy)"
The God of the Bible is the One who blesses:Abraham , Isaac , Jacob.. even us .
The God of the Bible is the One who gives us assurance:"Fear not; I am with you".
The God of the Bible is the One who commands: "Love the Lord with all your heart... Love your neighbour"
And also the God of the Bible is the One who ask questions:
》 Adam , "Where are you"?
》 Cain , "Where is your brother"?
》 Elijah , "What are you doing here"?
》 Job , "Would you discredit my justice"?
》 Bartimaeus , "What do you want me to do for you"?
》 Saul , "Why do you persecute me"?
》 Disciples, "Who do you say I am"?
Beloved, all the above questions are still relevant to each one of us. In our spiritual pilgrimage let us ponder:
》 Where / What are you doing with the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
》 Where is your brother / neighbour? Have you shared the saving knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ to them
》 The world wants to know "WHO IS JESUS "? Are you ready to introduce Him?
God was so kind to Job by answering all his questions , restored his health and blessed him with wealth and children.
GLORY TO GOD, Mark Boje, ArP
Job: 6: 14 "Anyone who withholds kindness from a friend forsakes the fear of the Almighty"
When we go through the book of job, we find that during Job's time of grieving his three friends came to mourn with him and to comfort him. For the first 7 days they sat and wept with him because he was in deep sorrow(Job:2:11-13)
" No one spoke a word to him, for they saw that his grief was very great (Vs.13)
Their presence alone was a comfort to him.
⚡ But they began to lecture. They told Job he must have sinned and that God was punishing him. (Job: 4: 7 -9) One of his friends, Eliphaz even asked Job,'' Whoever being perished, being innocent? "
-They acted as if they are advocates of the Almighty pleading for His cause.
-They exposed all their knowledge about God, ignoring their words are piercing swords to the already broken heart of
⚡ When Job finally able to respond, he told his friends what he needed from them. He asked for reasons to continue hoping. (Job:6: 11) for kindness, (Vs.14) and for words that did not presume guilt. (Vs: 29-30)
⚡ Let us pray for sensitivity to deal with people in their grief and pain.
⚡ To weep with them and to show our love in ways mere words cannot attain. When someone is grieving-try to comfort them not to lecture.
⚡ When you do not know what to say, it is better not to speak. Sometimes the best way to comfort is to sit quietly with the hurting person.
Dr. Thomas David
I need a mediator
Debate Cycle #1
Eliphaz: The innocent are safe. It is the wicked who perish. God’s wisdom & mercy is great. We all are sinful – repent, seek God, things will turn around. Accept God’s correction. [Summary ch 4 & 5]
Bildad: God is just. You or your sons must have offended God is some way. God does not reject a man of integrity. Your suffering is a sign that God has rejected you. [Summary ch 8]
Zophar: Stop claiming to be upright. God knows the hearts of all men. Repent. Put away wickedness. Come back to Him. (Summary Ch 11)
Job: [to his friends]
✴ Only I know that despite the greatness of my suffering I have not put God’s Word out of my mind. You have been challenged by what has happened to me. You are afraid that something similar will happen to you. [Jb 6:10, 21]
✴ God is All-powerful & All-wise. I want to talk to Him, but what words would I use. How can I be sure He hears me? I can never make myself pure enough to be acceptable to Him. There must be someone to stand between God & me (Summary ch 9>> v33)
✴ If suffering is because of sin, why do wicked men prosper? There is something more. God’s wisdom is beyond our understanding. Kings & kingdoms rise & fall – God is sovereign over all. I will continue to trust God even if he kills me. (Summary Ch 12-13>> v15)
❇ Watcher/ Guardian/ Preserver of mankind how does my sin affect You? Why do You not forgive me and wipe away my sin? I will soon die. You will search for me, and not find me. [Jb 7:20-21]
❇ You gave me life itself, and incredible love. You watched and guarded every breath I took. Will You let me be turned to dust? [Jb 10:12, 9]
❇ Talk to me. Tell me where I am wrong. [ 13:22-23]
(Notice that at this point Job thinks that death is the end of all things. He understands that God seeks to fellowship with Man.That sin is a barrier between God & Man.)
In his suffering, Job pushes for a deeper relationship with God. He wants to have dialogue with God. Unlike his friends who see God as a stern Judge, Job sees God as One who watches to preserve because of His incredible love. [Rf 7:20, 10:12-13]. And from the depth of his suffering he wishes for a Mediator – someone who would represent Job to God, someone who would be a bridge between him & God… who would help him to hear what God has to say. [Rf Jb 9:33]
We live in the Age of Grace.
✝ We have an Advocate/Mediator with the Father, Jesus Christ the Righteous One. [1Jn 2:1-2]
✝ We have the Holy Spirit who enables us to run with confidence to God and teaches us what to pray. [Rom 8:15, 26-27]
✝ The Holy Spirit reveals the things of God to us. [1 Cor 2:10-16]
Job longed for dialogue with God. We have received everything Job hungered for… to have friendship & dialogue with God… sad isn’t it, that we often hang out in the doorway rather than pushing in to know God deeply…
Abba Father help me to press in ever more deeply to know You. Help me to hear YOUR voice answering the questions of my heart. In Jesus Name. Amen
Job 12:13 To God belong wisdom and power,counsel ,and understanding are His
Job replies to zophar regarding wisdom and power.Job says :what is wisdom of ancient men compared with the wisdom of Ancient of days.It is little that we know and less that we can do.but God knows everything and can do everything and no thought can be withheld from Him.Happy are those who have this God as their God .Our God has infinite wisdom ,strength and power.His ways are always best for attaining the highest good for us.
Lord ,You. are wise and powerful.Sanctify us We lack wisdom.Give us Your wisdom to walk in Your ways.We surrender and commit ourselves to You In Jesus Name we pray.Amen
To Be Honest With God in Prayer Job 7:1-21
Praise God for these Days of Blessings
♪♪ Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine! ♪♪
♪♪ O what a foretaste of glory divine! ♪♪
♪♪ Heir of salvation, purchase of God, ♪♪
♪♪ born of his Spirit, washed in his blood. ♪♪
♪♪ This is my story, this is my song, ♪♪
♪♪ praising my Saviour, all the day long; ♪♪
♪♪ Perfect submission, all is at rest, ♪♪
♪♪ I in my Saviour am happy and blest, ♪♪
♪♪ watching and waiting, looking above, ♪♪
♪♪ filled with his goodness, lost in his love. ♪♪
Have you felt deep pain and helplessness? What's the primary cause of man's distress?
Job cries out: I have sinned... (v. 20a KJV) ♠
Not just Adam's alone, it's responsible for the evils of the entire human race. Sin is an offence against God. Generally speaking, in testing someone, God seeks to bring us to an acknowledgement of our pathetic and wretched state, a conviction of sin and confession of it to God. Psalm 8 brings a glorious answer to the despairing questions of verses 17 & 18 by presenting Christ, the Son of man, the last Adam! (1 Corinthians 15:22,45) ▪◼◾⬛
In Job 7, Job's words are almost a prayer describing his suffering. He asks God: "WHY ME?"
If we note the tone of Job, he isn't worried about being polite; HE SAYS IT LIKE IT IS! From this, what could we make out and learn from Job about prayer during suffering?
1) We need to be honest with God and to ourselves.
If we are hurt or are in pain, don't play games with God. We must tell God what we're feeling deep inside, in our own words. To make them easy, we might consider writing it down in a book, if that helps. And BE HONEST. ...ABSOLUTELY HONEST! If we aren't honest with God, we probably aren't being honest with ourselves. For He knows our entire being. Psalm 139 beautifully portrays that.
In the ancient world, a wise Hindu philosopher named Chanakya once advised not to reveal any of our deepest secrets to another human being if we think it's going to be used against us negatively. How true! But in Christian belief, we're to have a personal relationship with God and talk all things openly with Him, for He knows all our secrets. He's our Friend; He's our All.
2) We must let out all our feelings out with God, just as Job did — including our anger and other suppressed emotions.
Our God is big enough to handle it! Right? If we don't believe so, we must stop praying to God. When we suppress our negative feelings, they may come out in unhealthy ways, affecting our very being. Let God help us deal with them instead. A few days ago, a 37-year-old friend suicided, jumping off her 10th floor apartment home. I've still not come out of the pain. If only she had surrendered herself fully to the will of God than submit to her loss of purpose in life!!!
3) Let our prayers lead us to some action. We read Job debated with his friends. We might need to talk with others, someone we could really trust and relate with easily— such as an empathetic and dear friend, pastor/priest/father/sister, counselor, or parent, to process our pain better. There's no 100% solution to most issues, but we might be able to contain the situation for some time.
4) Sincerely allow the depth of our pain to push us deeper into God's abounding grace. We need to be clothed in Him, and be fully soaked in His grace. Later we see Job worshiped God in the midst of accusations and pain (Job 19:25). Remember Jacob? Never let God go! Cling tightly to God's promises and character, even when we face questions and doubt for which we might not have an immediate answer.
Long ago I had read Philip Yancey's book Where is God When it Hurts? It changed my perspective about the gift of pain God has given to us. God gives us pain so one day we would live with Him pain-free, forever and ever! ➕
If you're suffering from deep pain and feel helpless, go down on your knees right now... and pray with me...?
God, I trust that You know what's on my mind anyway. I don't know why I suffer this pain now... (Explain your pain/problem to God...)
Why did it have to happen to me? Why does it hurt so bad and seem so unfair to me? Why didn't You stop it? I surrender fully to Your will and purpose for me. Please help me to understand You, trust You, and help me feel Your love, peace, healing... even more strongly than my pain. In Jesus's name! Amen.
- Bob, Bangalore, ʙᴏʙᴍ@ʏᴍᴀɪʟ.ᴄᴏᴍ
Can you fathom the depths of God or discover the limits of the Almighty? Job 11:7
♦Poor Job’s wound’s were yet bleeding, *his sores are still hurting ….
….but none of his friends brought him any oil, or balm or any relief;
Here we see Zophar the Naamathite comes onto the scene, the third friend! When Zophar spoke these words to Job, we can see that he was claiming that he knew everything; deep things of God. He exhibits a very high charge against Job, as proud and false in justifying himself.
His spiritual pride, and … his ill-founded accusations against his friend shows us that he was ignorant of God's ways and God's righteousness.
- which is beyond man's understanding.
Today, we see many Christians…… thinking that they have an exclusive knowledge of God.
This is called the “pride of grace”.
It is the mistaken belief that they are more spiritual than others; all others are wrong and they are surely right.
It Spiritually makes blind and stubborn.
It’s only because of Jesus’ humility that we can be forgiven of our pride.
Being humbled is our rescue.
Jesus is our rescue from pride.
Appointed time for Man
Job 7: 1 There is an appointed time for man upon the earth. Are not his days , like the days of a hired man?
Here Job is telling about the nature of our life. Our worldly life is the period from our birth to our death. But after that we have an eternal life. Our worldly life is of short duration with trials and tribulations. This life is compared to many other common things, we come across daily in our life .Let us meditate few of them now .
- Our life is compared with the hired man waiting for his wages or reward for his work. The hired man work for a short period of time, takes his wages and go away. Yes, our life is of short duration only, but while going there is a reward or wages for our works. Revelation 14:13 says when we die, we can't take any thing with us except our works. We will get our reward in the judgement depending upon our work or deeds, whether good or bad.
- Our days are swifter than a weaver's shuttle. Yes the weaver's shuttle will run very fast. Same like this is our days are running fast. Job 7:6.
- Job 7:7 says our life is running so fast like a wind. Wind moves so fast and, it disappears fast. Same is our life.
- Job 7:9 says, our life is like a cloud which is consumed and vanishes away. So is our life moves fast, vanishes fast and goes to our grave and does not return.
- Job 8: 9 says our days in the earth are like a shadow. As the sun rises the shadow disappears and we can't recover it.
- Job 9:25 says my days are swifter than the post. They flee away and see no good.
- Job 9:26 Our days are passed away as the swift ships. It will go fast and disappear, so is our life.
- Job 9:26. Our days are like the eagle that hasteth to its prey. Eagle will swoop down on it's pray in a fraction of a second, like that our days are running fast. Job 10:21 says We go to a place, from where we can't return.
So , What should we do in the short span of our life?
- Let us make use of our days , time , opportunities ,and talents for the glory of God.
- Let us try to become worthy to receive Eternal life.
- Let us walk with our Lord ,obeying the word of God, waiting in his presence in prayer and meditation and live a fruitful, holy life. We should prepare ourselves ,so that we would be fit enough to be transformed in His second coming.
- We should guide many perishing souls towards our Saviour, for them to receive salvation .
May God help each one of us to prepare ourselves and others to inherit eternal life in the short span of our life .Amen. Hallelujah .
Dr. Padmini Selvyn.
I am the creator of Everything.......
⏳ Job: My Complaint Is Just
Almighty God has shot me with arrows, and their poison spreads through my body. God has lined up his terrors against me.
But who can eat flat, unsalted food? What taste is there in the white of an egg?
Why won't God give me what I ask? Why won't he answer my prayer?
If I knew he would, I would leap for joy, no matter how great my pain. I know that God is holy; I have never opposed what he commands.
Am I made of stone? Is my body bronze?
In trouble like this I need loyal friends--- whether I've forsaken God or not.
All right, teach me; tell me my faults. I will be quiet and listen to you.
⏳ My Suffering Is Comfortless
Remember, O God, my life is only a breath; my happiness has already ended.
Like a cloud that fades and is gone, we humans die and never return; we are forgotten by all who knew us.
You inspect them every morning and test them every minute.
⏳ Bildad: Job Should Repent
God never twists justice; he never fails to do what is right. Your children must have sinned against God, and so he punished them as they deserved. But turn now and plead with Almighty God;
⏳ Job: There Is No Mediator
Yes, I've heard all that before. But how can a human being win a case against God? Though I am innocent, all I can do is beg for mercy from God my judge.
⏳ Job: I Would Plead with God
You know that I am not guilty, that no one can save me from you.
Your hands formed and shaped me, and now those same hands destroy me.
Why, God, did you let me be born? I should have died before anyone saw me.
⏳ Zophar Urges Job to Repent
You claim that what you say is true; you claim you are pure in the sight of God.
God knows which people are worthless; he sees all their evil deeds.
⏳ Job Answers His Critics
Yes, you are the voice of the people. When you die, wisdom will die with you.
Even my friends laugh at me now; they laugh, although I am righteous and blameless; but there was a time when God answered my prayers.
Old people have wisdom, but God has wisdom and power. Old people have insight; God has insight and power to act.
⚡ God is strong and always victorious; both deceived and deceiver are in his power.
Be fair with Innocent
AS I AM............
I AM COMING SOON.......
"ALL GLORY AND HONOUR BELONGS TO GOD ALONE"
Musings prompted by Job's 3 friends